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Originally Posted by GreenHornet
Hey Ciderbarrel,
Based on your driving commute of less than 20miles a day you would be using only electric for most all days which would mean you would not be spending anything virtually on the diesel fuel. So the hypothetical numbers you ran would be even more in favor of the diesel vs Prius. If you combined the diesel with electric the fuel economy is like 225 mpg. The Prius does not even compare to this!
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Ohh, in that case lets throw some new numbers at it as a best case scenario. Assume never out of EV mode, but they Prius still gets 46 MPG. The Prius is still using $469.34 a year in fuel vs 0 diesel costs at 6000 miles a year.
Also, looking back, a 5 year pay back may be too unreasonable, so I look at a 7.5 year pay back to 10 year pay back as a good price range. Most people in my family will keep their cars for well over a decade. Hell, I kept my Saturn Ion for 10 years (Bought in Jan 03) before getting rid of it last summer.
at $25,000, it would be 27.69 years
at $22,500, it would be 22.37 years
at $20,000, it would be 17.04 years
at $17,500, it would be 11.71 years
at $16,695, it would be 10 years
at $15,521, it would be 7.5 years
So, for ME, a range of $15,521 - $16,695, or around $16,000 is a more realistic number.
But, the average person drives 15K miles a year, so...
Assume, best case, you make alot of short trips to stay in EV mode and you can get free plug-in charging at all parking lots, and you use very little diesel to get 225 MPG with 15K miles a year. The Prius uses $1,173.59 in fuel, and the Diesel only $259.93.
The break even point vs the $12 Prius:
at $25,000, it would be 14.23 years
at $22,500, it would be 11.49 years
at $21,137, it would be 10 years
at $20,000, it would be 8.76 years
at $18,853, it would be 7.5 years
at $17,500, it would be 6.02 years
$18,853 - $21,137 -- so $20,000-ish for a normal driver