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Old 06-13-2013, 07:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee View Post
So it's the brake's fault your buddy doesn't know the limitations of his equipment and how to respond rationally?

The facts remain about the pros I listed AND that drum fade resistance can be markedly improved- if that's how hard you are on the brakes.

I put a dab of grease or anti-seize compound where the drum seats on the hub; I haven't had to wrestle with any rusted-on drums that I did that to.

I want drums on the front of my Tempo, but not bad enough to do all that custom machining. Early Rabbits had drums all around.
Not knowing our limitations when we are young and invincible shouldn't be a surprise... Thinking back, I'm amazed I'm still alive given some of the things that I did, especially when I was on my motorcycle. I'm sure there aren't many folks (old or young) that would approve of what my buddies and I were doing at the time (heck, I don't!)

I didn't see any pros listed that would make it worth switching from discs to drums... discs stop well and safely (and arguably, faster), discs can be modified with return springs to minimize drag (if they aren't already set up that way), and brake dust can be minimized with the use of different pads (which, depending on design, can be significantly easier to replace than shoes, especially if the drums are stuck on the dang hub), and discs are already less likely to fade (if that's how hard I am on the brakes).

The pro you didn't mention is that drums can be much more easily used without power assist which could be useful for extended EOC, but that's something I don't do.

Apparently the drum brakes on big rigs *aren't* good enough... NHTSA institutes braking rules for large trucks, aims to cut stopping distances by 30% - Autoblog. These regs are driving the adoption of disc brakes on big rigs...


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