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Old 09-10-2013, 08:34 PM   #61 (permalink)
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The link you keep posting has a great punch line, it's what the Feds are keeping out of the US and Canada but is available to buyers in Europe.... well the ones who are willing to shell out $144,000 US for it!!! Wonder what the time is to recoup the fuel savings cost? Oh and only 250 of them.

VW XL1 Price & Production Details

Here's a nice old car and driver article about why we don't get a lot of diesels. Diesel's Last Stand?

Note that it's from 2004 so evidently the standards have gotten tighter since then. US NOX 0.05g/mi, EU 0.4g/mi. It's these same rules that allow large companies like GM to put an "easter egg" program on some engines that are certified to both standards and let you use lean burn. It's been said a few times, nothing beats the original insight (I just picked one up and have a 72mpg and an 82mpg tank) and NOX rules pushed that technology out.

I have a friend who went to work in inner China where they have NOX pollution problems and heard about what unchecked NOX smog can be like, I've been into Toronto during smog warning days and I live in a steel city (Hamilton). I'm very glad that our governments restrict the NOX to the point that they do and many of the EU politicians have been calling on re thinking their diesel tax incentives and moving towards more gas cars. Also I looked for a link but couldn't find it, I have heard that in a few years the EU NOX limits will be as strict as US EPA ones. So EVERY EU diesel on sale at that time should in theory pass if they chose to submit to testing.


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Look back at history, like the Chrysler Turbine Car, noted was how it would run on any burnable fuel BUT it main problem was it lack of service needed and its projected million miles life.

In a couple of the articles they even said "We honor the high octain gas and the ICE."

And how about the Saturn Electric Car, same problem, lack of parts and service needs.

Consider our printers many have ought on that they nearly give the printer away so they can make money selling us ink.

Again I will point out this article to new comers:

The Silver Bear Cafe

Read it and do some research on all of this.

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