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Old 10-06-2013, 08:08 PM   #159 (permalink)
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Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
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Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
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Originally Posted by niky View Post
Still... points in favor of the stick.
For sure!

I'd love to compare the sub/urban economy of each -- head to head. I'm confident the stick would prevail despite the CVT's better rating (without resorting to P&G).

The problem for me is Mitsu's limited dealer network. I can't just drop in for a test; the closest one to me is 100 km away (60 mi).

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Originally Posted by UltArc View Post
The only thing I didn't like compared to the other is that the rear seats aren't split, and that it doesn't come with rubber flooring.
I'm reasonably sure they are 60/40 split in the Mirage.

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For the price, the Spark doesn't seem that bad, it seems like GM did a good job making a little car.
I really wanted to like the Spark, but its underwhelming mileage turned me off. And its slushbox automatic gets particularly horrid mileage. (GM knows this and is switching to a CVT next year, I believe... but that won't cure its portly curb weight.) The CVT Mirage is the way to go in a small/cheap car if you must have an automatic (which ~95% of U.S. buyers seem to need/want).

It'll be interesting to see how Mirage does vs. Spark -- it's really the closest U.S. competitor. But GM has an enormous U.S. dealer network (~7000 before the financial crisis/bankruptcy); Mitsu has ~400 dealers. That contributes to GM being able to sell ~34k Sparks in the last 12 months, vs. Mitsu's modest prediction of just 7k Mirages/year.
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