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Old 11-01-2013, 11:23 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by cbaber View Post
It would be interesting to see the EPA tests and how they are done. Obviously the M/T is not being driven to it's full potential.
I did a bit of searching on this, and the short answer is: when the EPA lab tests a manual transmission, the test driver has to follow prescribed shift points, and they're not optimized for best fuel econony.

So in the real world, it's relatively easy for a manual transmission ecodriver / hypermiler to beat the city/combined EPA rating, sometimes by significant amounts. (Like 41% over, in the case of the 5-speed Mirage!)

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Admin note...

See more: I split the interesting discussion about EPA testing & manuals into a dedicated thread...

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ing-27416.html

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