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Originally Posted by Arragonis
I see unicorns...
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Oh quit complaining. We all suffer those little lipid soluble "inconveniences" from living through the 1970's. Just sit back and enjoy how purple they smell.
;^)
OK, back to serious. RustyLugNut is giving us some great science here for free, stuff I'd be quite happy to pay for (esp. when you consider what he
can't say).
He is demonstrating how the HHO debate has stagnated. I just wanted to come out and say it- call a spade a "spade", so to say- and rip those who use the same old lame and nonsensical rebuttals
All of us tend to think in absolutes because it helps us order our world. But to be a good scientist you can't let yourself think that way.
You should be thrilled with that which defies our understanding. "Wow! This event shouldn't be able to happen- let me work on it!"
So when a phenomena occurs, to fall back on a simple equation that you're not even using correctly is intellectually disingenuous. People do it not to promote investigation and knowledge, but to stroke their own egos. These are the narcissistic dregs in our society that bring us all down.
So what if the HHO generator only added 1-2% to my daily commute? Is that worth investigating and devoting at least
some of the combined brainpower of the ecomodders to its solution? What if I get 1-2%, but you get 0%, or even notice a loss? What then?
We already know some mods work well for some and others don't, it depends on many factors. I would at least then expect that in this forum the intellectual honesty to not "poke fun" and disregard/disrespect those who are working on the problem.
And yes, of course it happens- otherwise the thread wouldn't be titled "Yeah we all know its a scam".
Be honest.
My personal suspicion is that there is something to this. I also suspect its usefulness is limited, or we'd all be driving vehicles running Brown's gas. So while I may not be able to set up a generator that gives me a 25% across the board MPG improvement, if I were able to get my MPG from 12 to 17 for only when I was pulling a trailer at a steady highway speed, I'd still be all over it.
And you have been a perfect example for all of us to follow. You've shown an open mind and a willingness to learn. You've asked great questions and seemingly held prejudice at bay when others are unable to. You sir, are a fine and honest man- and you have my respect.
My question is this: Does this need to pass the "Sagan Test"? Most of the extraordinary claims seem to come from the fringe (as with many other claims on debated subjects). But at least the science here is solid, its just not widely understood.
Or should it be grouped with the Pizza Pan People that sometimes get 2-4% and sometimes none?
I mean,
really. Pizza Pans? That's just stoopid!