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Originally Posted by P-hack
...Oh, and you are terribly incorrect when you say it is ONLY about the secret "invisible" happenings in the combustion chamber. There are tons of variables involved, not excluding fuel and delivery variances, individual ECU variances and operational parameters as well as the load the HHO system imparts.
It deserves to prove itself not a unicorn, but will take more than a few posts with missing details (for whatever reason). Though I am glad for the information from Rusty, and a careful reader will have some clue what is involved with isolating the variables and making a proper case for HHO on gasoline. Not that plenty of people haven't tried already, but at least make sure your tires are properly inflated before you start on this.
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But that's essentially the
opposite of what I did say. And I said
nothing about "invisible"!
I did say "novel" in reference to which Rusty alluded to ozone (O3). He didn't even mention O- and orthogonal water. It's hard enough to fully understand the nature of the interactions between the gases we know to be present, and yet we are forced to admit that what we don't know
IS present!
And there
ARE tons of variables- including all those you mention! Plus its a system that transfers heat and work to the outside over time- the very definition of an open system. Please read my posts again- some of your points are a recapitulation of my own.!
What I
am saying is that the majority here are showing up prejudiced, including:
"...Not that plenty of people haven't tried already, but at least make sure your tires are properly inflated before you start on this."
Our
duty is to show up with an open mind and be intellectually honest. It's not my job to force someone into it, and if a person can't be then they are a detriment to all and have no place with those that come here wanting to learn.
And that Rusty can't say everything speaks volumes. I can personally attest to companies making proteins in trash cans that they sell for hundreds of millions of dollars, but all anyone will say is "yeah, we use trash cans." Does that mean insulin is a foolhardy venture?
Like hydrogen electrolysis, I
know these people genetically manipulate e. coli. And yes, they use trash cans. They are also likely in a controlled climate and have some kind of mixer. IT IS NOT A NEW OR UNKNOWN SCIENCE!!!
But bet there are things they don't ever want to share. I'm sure they do something to the can to increase yield, but we'll never find out. Just like Rusty's company.
My
statement is "The science is there. We need to figure out how to use it" (kind of like "How to make the pizza pan work every time"). My
argument is that we can't move forward because of our egos, prejudice, and ignorance.
BTW, regularly check and maintain at 45psi X 4. Not sure if it really helps, so it must be voodoo.