View Single Post
Old 01-08-2014, 11:29 AM   #51 (permalink)
MetroMPG
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,530

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,078
Thanked 6,978 Times in 3,613 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2007 ion2 View Post
I think they're still handicapped by needing a pump, manifold, torque converter, and more rotating mass than a manual transmission, and more parasitic loss from the hydraulic systems
True enough. It was funny -- while testing the Mirages, the salesman who rode with me was describing the CVT as superior to the manual: "it will always go to the best RPM for torque or efficiency, depending on the driver's demands. It will even hold the ideal RPM for max power while accelerating at full throttle."

I asked: "So why does it accelerate slower than the manual?"

He didn't have an answer.

__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote