View Single Post
Old 01-11-2014, 02:15 PM   #1254 (permalink)
XYZ
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: nowhere
Posts: 533
Thanks: 31
Thanked 86 Times in 69 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Occasionally6 View Post
Now this is the discussion that needs to be had; what needs to be done.
The discussion does not "need to be had". That anything "needs to be done" is an assumption, based upon a belief.

Quote:
No, we're not going back to preindustrial conditions in terms of material wealth.
Then what, specifically, is your proposal? Or is this just a trolling expedition?

Quote:
The important things like water supply and refrigeration are technically possible in a non-emitting and sustainable economy.
Before electric power and modern refrigeration existed people used ice boxes. The ice was cut during the winter and kept in ice houses for delivery by horse drawn wagon to homes. Is that your idea of progress? If not, what are you proposing as an alternative?

Quote:
There are many people who have shown that it is possible to live without using fossil fuels in daily life.
This is a romantic fantasy. Of course, there are some places on earth where people are still living in primitive societies. They enjoy all the wonderful advantages of a non-modern existence, including disease, famine, illiteracy, etc. (sarcasm deliberate).

It's like recommending a starvation diet as a cure for famine...