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Old 01-13-2014, 02:56 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arragonis View Post
I agree being efficient in energy is a good thing but if its a major issue be a pioneer and turn the PC off.
Just like any discussion on religion or politics or reproduction, it is easy to cross over from rational to hysterical. Either you and Vago have done that, or you both have missed the thread about energy usage where I posted my 122 kwH/mo average electric consumption, when the U.S. average is 902 kwH/mo- and I don't even have the benefit of glomming on to someone else's heat as apartment dwellers do and yes, I have refrigeration and a PC. Perhaps that is pioneering; if so, it is very sad that things so simple as common sense and choosing to not be a slob are considered extraordinary.

You see, there is a difference between simply using whatever form of energy efficiently- in this case, electricity, but similarly I presume you are here because you have or had an interest in using fossil fuel efficiently- and wasting it. In other words, one can be a selfish slob or one can be a wise, efficient user of energy even though one is still using that form of energy. Can you detect the difference between tearing all over creation in Hummers -or- exclusively riding a bicycle -or- bicycling a lot and also using an eco car or even a truck when it proves a useful tool? I sure hope so.

I wouldn't expect the average household to be willing or even able to cut back consumption to my 122 kw/mo level, but how much would they have to cut- 20%? 30?- in order to render this ignorant supply-side bickering about more energy production irrelevant? Unplug a few hundred million phantom electricity using devices that are essentially doing nothing productive, or put up more filthy nukes- or power plants of ANY sort? You know which one I prefer.

P.S. It's too bad that such well known names in this arena- like Gore and Nader- are also the biggest hypocrits and idiots. Fine- dismiss them completely. Don't let them destroy the facts and the message.
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