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Originally Posted by ecoTex
Welcome Viking , I think I can speak for everyone here in saying we are anxiously waiting to see someone prove the value of an HHO system!
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Well I hope to show the community that HHO can yield some great improvements in IC engine efficiency.
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Originally Posted by elhigh
I too would like to see someone back up the HHO with hard numbers. As far as I'm concerned it's snake oil. |
Well I said I would look at this article.
I did, all I can say is
Wow, what crap.
The cell shown in the linked page is a terrible example of an HHO booster. Between the current leakage, too few plates, unknown plate material, excessive gaps between plates, poor connection, terrible isolation, lack of circulation, marginal back-fire/electrolyte scrubber design, glass container and no power control. That's not a cell its a bomb. Designs like that are generally called 'Steaming Behemoths', because that is all that they really make. It is so far away from Faraday, that you might say its not even in the solar system.
That would be like trying to build an EV with AAA nicad batteries, 36 AWG wiring and a motor from off-road winch.
I have the first prototype for the production HHO system, but even with that the design is an isolated cell, sized for a nominal 12V system.
But a booster only works if its part of a properly sized system. Note I said system (not just a cell), that's a properly sized cell, a pump with the right flow, a large electrolyte reservoir, large gauge wiring, safety cutoff, sized drier/scrubber and a tuning device(chip, tuning module, ecu reflash, soft re-flash, etc..)
The cell design is scalable and stackable, so I can scale a system up or down, from a riding lawn mower to an 18 wheeler.
Any vehicle with Electronic controls will need the fueling maps adjusted to take advantage of the more efficient and more complete combustion.
If you make no adjustments on a pre-obdII car/truck or an efi motorcycle, you just get reduced emissions, no improvement in power or efficiency, but The ecu is not fighting you.
Unfortunately, obdII computers are designed to keep the exhaust dirty enough to keep the catalytic converters operating at their optimum temperatures. So, whatever tuning methodology is used on an obdII system, you have to override the converter efficiency protocols, or the ecu will just fight you all the way.
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Originally Posted by elhigh
That said, a big guy touring an 800 with 140lbs of luggage (seriously?) is hard to hypermile on the highway. I'd want to see what a non-HHO bike (not a friend's, yours) delivered under similar circumstances.
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Well as I showed earlier with the 5 tanks mileage, the cell makes a difference. A significant difference.