[GeorgeWiseman]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

But with little substance.

Your lack of knowledge about throttling, pumping losses and air/fuel ratio calculations show you have a long way to go in understanding combustion.

I think you'll find, as we proceed, that I know a lot more about combustion than the average mechanic. But I do know that I will not gain credibility or respect here until I can prove my technologies work as claimed.

My first task (here) is to make the claims and present my paradigm. Then it's in black and white and appropriate tests can be made.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

Are you willing to have someone such as myself check your work?

Absolutely YES! It would be my pleasure

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

I would be willing to drive up to Washington with a trailer load of test equipment to verify your claims. A trailer load wouldn't be needed - a briefcase would do.

Agreed. Things like mileage, exhaust temperatures and exhaust constituents are not hard to measure. Power and performance is a little harder but some people have portable dynos.

[QUOTE=RustyLugNut;409110]To be exact, I wouldn't need to drive up, there are ecomodder members in your area who would be capable of performing the basic A-B-A testing.

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

Since you seem unable to speak in terms of science and technology, there is really no need to discuss this.

Ouch. I think I've been doing nothing but speaking in terms of science and technology. I'm not disagreeing with anything anyone is saying here, just that the conventional understanding of combustion is not the ONLY way that it can be done; and that there is a better way that's been around a LONG time. I didn't invent it or discover it... I've simply found practical ways to apply it to modern engines.

If you change just one thing (vapor fuel instead of liquid fuel), everything changes and most mechanics simply don't understand this because it goes against everything they were taught. I know, I am a mechanic. If I didn't know what I know, I'd be saying exactly the same things you guys are telling me.

Just because I'm pointing out that there is a different way to do things does NOT mean that I do not know science and technology! I'm pretty sure that few here could match my mechanical IQ (tested off the chart).

I'm multi-skilled and have accomplishments that NASA can't duplicate (like an electrolyzer design, independently tested, at near 100% Faraday efficiency).
My knowledge and skills are both horizontally and vertically integrated. I researched, designed, manufactured and sold hundreds of them worldwide. They are not only efficient, but half the weight and size of the 'competition', quiet, rugged, user-friendly, designed to last 20 years minimum, easy to maintain and repair. It's better than the design that William Rhodes originally patented (he was a rocket scientist that not only worked for NASA, had over 100 patents and worked on retainer for the government up until he died in his 90s). I had my design on the market before I ever knew Mr. Rhodes and we became very good friends.

I know my science and technology, not only in theory, but in the most practical ways imaginable.

But I understand that proof is required, that is the scientific way after all

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

I think we should go straight to testing. Are you open to this?

Very open. But it'll have to wait for summer. Right now I'm on a writing sabbatical and my shop is in storage. The vehicle I'm currently driving belongs to my wife's company and (I hope you find this as amusing as I find it frustrating) she won't let me touch it until the warranty runs out.

In the meantime I'll be filling out my profile here and addressing comments so that when it comes time to test, it can be done appropriately, competently and comprehensively.

I personally have three project vehicles (all currently in storage) and an RV generator that I've already converted to vapor fuel (no throttle plate needed). That generator is likely the first project I'll be having you (or whomever you trust) test.

I have several reasons for using a generator to demonstrate vapor fuel technology. First, I usually work on projects that benefit me directly, having my RV generator running on vapors allows me to boondock longer. It's also very appropriate for hybrid vehicles that use a generator to keep the battery bank charged. And it's not too different from the system Tom Ogle patented.

My other vehicles I'll enter in the ecomodder garage, with full details of their modifications and will certainly make them available for testing as soon as they're on the road.