I realize this thread has been dormant a while, but it touches a few things I have been stewing over.
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Originally Posted by BIG DAVE
I use a 203 degree thermostat, and Evans propylene/ethylene glycol coolant.
I gained 0.5 MPG by doing this. One of the few engine mods I've seen work.
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Originally Posted by diesel_john
I run pure Seirra antifreeze in a cast iron block with aluminum heads. i did it to help prevent detonation. I boiled the water out of the mixture by turning off the fans and taking off the rad cap and letting ti idle until it got to 250 f and there were no more bubbles coming out. It doesn't even boil at 250 now with the cap off. no steam separation in the heads equals a better resistant to detontion. the solution is a little bit more viscous than 50/50 make sure you have a good enough water pump on cold starts to circulate in the block and the stock thermostat will run hotter because of this. i always take out the thermostat and drill a 1/16th hole thur it if its doesn't have a little air bypass check valve built in.
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I realize both of your vehicles are diesels. I was also thinking of switching to Evans Engineering coolant, but I think my truck would require a custom tune to take advantage of the added temperature range. (OEM T-stat is 193.) I thought it might also give an mpg boost, since it'd be retaining more of the combustion energy...instead of wasting it by cooling.
Never thought of drilling a pilot hole in the T-stat. Did you do that even before the coolant swap? I did think about redesigning a T-stat, so it was a butterfly valve that pivoted like a throttle plate, instead of that blob in the pipe...but that would take some work.
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
I can't answer the thermal stress question, but do have another one: will your engine let you run at higher temps? What's your electric fan's trigger temp?
Temp is a tricky issue because another effect of more heat is less timing advance (engine may be more likely to ping the hotter it gets).
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I'd like to raise my truck's running temps to pursue better mpg, but my truck's PCM will pull timing if the water temp is too high. I have installed a warm air intake and an under drive crank pulley. The Taurus e-fan keeps temps in check, but the WAI makes the tranny downshift out of 5th lock sooner (grrrr).
Evans advises everyone using it to run a non-pressure coolant cap, or the fluid will never boil...which would make it less effective. I don't think gaskets would be a problem with Evans coolant (boils at 375* at 0 psi), but the timing loss in my truck would make it a dismal mod, I think. And...just because the coolant is hotter doesn't mean combustion is any hotter, does it? Hmmm, might even be able to delete the radiator fan...would definitely need a digital temp gauge.