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Why should you care about what affects them directly? What makes you concerned with the "mental attitudes (of) large numbers of people"?
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Obviously, because those things also affect me.
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Would you be opposed to their getting their energy from nuclear energy or a clean version of coal generated power plants?
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Nuclear would be great. "Clean coal" belongs in the Unicorn Corral.
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So he engages in behaviour that you find offensive. Apparently there is no law against it. Would you like to make a law against it?
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No, I'd like to shoot the SOB. Unfortunately, there are laws against that.
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Have you considered speaking to him about it? Have you considered closing your windows?
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I have spoken to him. His response was physical threats which escalated to the point where I decided to call the cops. In retrospect, I probably should have just taken him out then, but I thought it would look better having it on record for the next time.
As for closing my windows, 1) It's a diesel truck. Windows don't block the noise. 2) Why should I be denied the freedom of having cool, fresh air in my house?
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I have a neighbor who may be similarly ignorant or wasteful. His vehicle is a Honda that he will run at idle in his driveway for at least 15 minutes before driving it at all. It's a waste of fuel. Does it annoy me? No, it doesn't.
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Wouldn't annoy me either, since if he had a nice, quiet, non-stinking Honda, I wouldn't be able to hear or smell it. (I know this because other neighbors do have Hondas & Toyotas.) That's exactly my point: It's perfectly possible to conduct your affairs in a way that at least minimizes your effects on others, which is why many of us are happy to drive cars with working mufflers and emission controls. But there are some people who just seem to get off on doing things that make other people's lives a bit more miserable, even when doing so costs them in money and/or convenience.
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Where does this offensive behaviour occur? I don't know of any actual Libertarians who smoke tobacco, unless they are smoking pot.
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LP meetings & conventions, back when I used to be politically active.