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Old 01-09-2008, 03:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Smoky -

I'm aware of RMI & think they promote good ideas.

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Originally Posted by Smoky View Post
To those who want to challenge the weight vs aero debate please listen to what Mr. Lovins has to say. "3/4 of fuel use is caused by the weight"
I'm not sure why you think this is a debate that needs settling. Each factor dominates as the major proportion of energy consumed under different circumstances. In urban type driving, I don't have much difficulty believing Lovins' figure.

You of course noted that his presentation also featured vastly improved aerodynamics in all the "concept" vehicles shown. And the very first improvement suggested for heavy trucking, for example (where high speed travel dominates) is: "better aero".
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