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Originally Posted by Hersbird
What if you did this same comparison with a 1.0 ecoboost Fiesta which is over $10,000 less then a Prius and gets even closer economy, I don't think you would ever recover the cost.
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I don't think people have any idea what sort of car the Prius is. My mom keeps calling it a tiny car, and asks me what it's like driving the little thing. A Prius and a Fiesta aren't comparable vehicles. I could just as easily compare a moped and a Fiesta and then ask, why not get the moped that is $10k less expensive?
As already stated, the proper way to evaluate hybrid vs non-hybrid is by looking at models that have both options. Anyone trying to do wacky comparisons like a Fiesta to a Prius is being intentionally misleading, and really has no interest in knowing what the value of they hybrid components are.
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Originally Posted by ME_Andy
I believe that a well-designed ICE car is more efficient than an identical (but heavier and more complicated) hybrid.
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Well, your belief is wrong. The explanation has already been discussed in this thread.
That said, choose the right tool for the job. If someone has a 100 mile commute that is nearly all freeway driving, then a gasser with the proper gearing and aero profile might be the way to go. Stop and go urban driving; a hybrid tends to be the right tool.
Here is proof ->
Compare Side-by-Side
The Camry gets 28 MPG, and the hybrid gets 41.
The Accord gets 31 MPG, and the hybrid gets 47.
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Prii and Insights seem to top out around 70 mpg, but there are ICE cars here that beat that.
Look at the Urba Centurion that runs off a little diesel engine and gets 200+ mpg. You can't beat that!
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Sure I can beat that. A bicycle gets like a million miles per gallon. Comparing the Prius to the Urba Centurion is pointless. If you want a 15 horsepower car that accelerates like molasses, has no modern conveniences or entertainment, and a poor safety rating, then its easy to get good fuel economy. On top of that, the Urba Centurion would get even better fuel economy if it was designed as a hybrid.