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bwilson4web · 01-26-2016, 10:44 AM

Sorry about touching the old thread. It was a slow day and VW is not handling their problem well:

VW CEO 'we did not cheat, we did not understand' to NPR - it defies understanding unless they thought the emissions tests were just a hoop to jump through and had no effect on operation.
European cities ban cars - bad air days, some cities have had to ban cars except for electrics. China has a different source of bad air but are doing the same thing, banning cars and bad-air days. Seriously, VW was poisoning their own people.
Resisting "Lemon Law" recall - a Florida owner got his money back using their Lemon Law over a vigorous defense by VW. The right answer is for VW to offer a new, replacement swap, one-for-one, and then fix the broken cars on their time and dime. New car for old, an even money+inflation trade.
Even SRC equipped cars used 'cheat-diesel' software - since 2013 VW has been selling SRC equipped cars yet still used the 'cheat-diesel' code.

A bit long, for a detailed read of VW-gate:
http://www.computer.org/cms/Computer...ruary-2016.pdf

Think about how many diesel owners, diesel advocates, and press have been totally suckered in by the 'cheat-diesels.' Locally, 40 members voted for cheat-diesels when they were called "clean diesels." But I also remember the Portland-to-Portland, 8000 mile stunt (in the end, the premium price for diesel made the cost/mile, Gen-2 Prius the winner.)

In the USA, at least 500,000 cheat-diesel sales could have gone to legal diesels, hybrids, and even gassers. VW called them "clean diesels" when they were really "cheat-diesels."

The quickest and best solution is a one-for-one swap of new VW, equivalent cars or a cash+inflation+25% payment for these cheat-diesels. Once VW has them, I don't care if they fix'em, salvage, or ship'em.

Bob Wilson

01-26-2016, 10:44 AM	#74 (permalink)
bwilson4web Engineering first Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 843 17 i3-REx - '14 BMW i3-REx Last 3: 45.67 mpg (US) Blue Bob's - '19 Tesla Std Rng Plus Thanks: 94 Thanked 246 Times in 157 Posts	Sorry about touching the old thread. It was a slow day and VW is not handling their problem well: VW CEO 'we did not cheat, we did not understand' to NPR - it defies understanding unless they thought the emissions tests were just a hoop to jump through and had no effect on operation. European cities ban cars - bad air days, some cities have had to ban cars except for electrics. China has a different source of bad air but are doing the same thing, banning cars and bad-air days. Seriously, VW was poisoning their own people. Resisting "Lemon Law" recall - a Florida owner got his money back using their Lemon Law over a vigorous defense by VW. The right answer is for VW to offer a new, replacement swap, one-for-one, and then fix the broken cars on their time and dime. New car for old, an even money+inflation trade. Even SRC equipped cars used 'cheat-diesel' software - since 2013 VW has been selling SRC equipped cars yet still used the 'cheat-diesel' code. A bit long, for a detailed read of VW-gate: http://www.computer.org/cms/Computer...ruary-2016.pdf Think about how many diesel owners, diesel advocates, and press have been totally suckered in by the 'cheat-diesels.' Locally, 40 members voted for cheat-diesels when they were called "clean diesels." But I also remember the Portland-to-Portland, 8000 mile stunt (in the end, the premium price for diesel made the cost/mile, Gen-2 Prius the winner.) In the USA, at least 500,000 cheat-diesel sales could have gone to legal diesels, hybrids, and even gassers. VW called them "clean diesels" when they were really "cheat-diesels." The quickest and best solution is a one-for-one swap of new VW, equivalent cars or a cash+inflation+25% payment for these cheat-diesels. Once VW has them, I don't care if they fix'em, salvage, or ship'em. Bob Wilson __________________ 2019 Tesla Model 3 Std. Range Plus - 215 mi EV 2017 BMW i3-REx - 106 mi EV, 88 mi mid-grade Retired engineer, Huntsville, AL Last edited by bwilson4web; 01-26-2016 at 12:06 PM..