[gumby79]

Originally Posted by DragBean

If all the fuel got burnt just a hair after tdc youd have the ideal situation.

When the fire finishes burning to soon. This is commonly referred to as spark nock, pinging ,detonation; normally bad resulting in bent rods ,broken crankshafts, melted pistons, ect.ect. Befor computers you had to retard the timeing to compensate and some times colder plugs or more fule.
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Ecky I'm thinking that either 1) hotter plugs, or 2) a DC-DC converter would be a more simple, more effective solution here - if a cooler spark is even a problem.

One thing I've always wondered about with HHO claims is where the extra power is supposed to come from. You're certainly not going to get 4-10% gains from more complete combustion, since combustion completion in modern engines is well over 99%.

If it's a matter of gasoline's flame front being too slow for the engine, that sounds more to me like the engine was not designed properly to burn gasoline.

Hotter plug will not solve weak spark, its steal lacking enough energy. And when the Alt. is switched on bad things could happen an overheated sparkplug acts like a glow plug in a Indirect Injection diesel engine causing pre-ignition/detonation that can't be controlled by the computer.
A dc-dc or race battery posably a LiPO4@14vdc would be comparable to running the charging system.

A cold spark from battery only race cars brought us MSD ignition, and 16vdc race batteries $269for a high capacity @ jegs.com

The extra power comes from the 2extra electrons HOH Configuration and absolutely no scientific understanding of how HHO can melt tungsten and in the same breth not burn your skin.

If ICE gas or more efficient diesel were near 99% efficient we would all be getting electric car mileage .

You are correct todays gasoline engine is not designed for the flame front speed of Lean Burn. This is what is being compensated for with NO2/HHO.

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how do hydroxyls effect the combustion process ?
If you can't answer this question, than you need to quit being Thomas Edison's assistant telling him that the 1st 999light bulbs didn't work so you should quit now, before you go and make this idea into reality, something that works. This is for all.

The only reason HHO is in the Unicorn Coral is that we haven't gotten this Turbo as a charger? off the ground. Or some other non-crankshaft power supply up and running. . And DragBean is talking about non -crankshaft power supply Alt. cut out. So get off your high horse and get your hands dirty. Find an answer, not an excuse to not try.

In the Browns Gas water plasma model, the water molecule goes from the tetrahedral and bent (4 electron pairs, 2 being used and 2 not being used) to the trigonal bipyramidal (5 electron pairs, 2 being used and 3 not being used), this causes the shape change.
Thursday, 11 February 2010
Brown's Gas: Fuel from Water

If you can figure out the HHO riddle thirs a Nobel Prize in it for you. Read the article. But you have to get past "Big Oil" to claim it.
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What configuration of hho generator are you working with ? Wet /dry cell

Gumby stay flexible.