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Old 10-07-2016, 12:43 PM   #158 (permalink)
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Nope, all those superchargers are evidence that the current crop of EVs are being sold to people who mostly don't care about charging losses or long-term battery life. Why else all the hype about wireless charging?
Look - quick charging does not noticeably harm the battery. Tesla's Supercharger system is their own, and battery degradation is NOT an issue with their battery. The only battery degradation issue I know of, is with early Nissan Leaf (up to mid 2014) and it is not because of CHAdeMO charging - but with high air temperatures in general.

What "hype" about wireless charging are you referring to? No one I know who drives and EV even wants that - it is a meaningless "solution" in search of a problem.

And what does wireless charging have to do with battery degradation and/or quick charging? I fail to see why you brought it up.


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No, I'm comparing vehicles I could buy now, that would meet my need for a roughly 200 mile range. The ability to fit 7 people in a Tesla is not a plus to me*, because I only rarely have even one other person riding with me - and observation suggests that this is in fact the norm.

(*In fact it's a negative, since I don't want to drive something that big.)
You keep reminding us that you need the range tat we will be getting in about 2 months, with the Chevy Bolt EV. We've got it.

I agree with you that the Model S is too big, for I want, as well.


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Circular argument. EVs are charged at home because the people who have them are mostly the ones who don't need more range than they get on a single charge. Which is great for them, not so great for those who need more range.
EV's can work for a vast majority of people - and quick charging is NOT required very often. Quick chargers will allow EVEN MORE people to drive and EV.


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No, that's NOT what it means in the context of this discussion. It means that the EV will not have the range (with reasonable reserve) that meets a potential buyer's needs..
If you can't drive an EV because they don't meet your needs - and you are NOT DRIVING an EV - then that is NOT "range anxiety".
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