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Old 01-01-2017, 10:17 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lemmy View Post
Of course, diesel emissions are a big thing recently, and deservedly so, but the 107 was petrol and I could exceed the Pious easily. Well, actually with difficulty because it was a fun car to drive and hoon about, and if a Petrol 107 is using less fuel than a Pious it's creating less emissions.
So you're saying that a Prius isn't more economical than a car two classes smaller?

I have a Fiat 500 (same size as a 107 for our US friends), and yes it beat's the Prius for economy. The Prius on the other hand can bring home just about anything from Ikea or the hardware store without worry. Which is the more practical car if you could only have one?

The added cost of a hybrid is virtually zero. The Camry Hybrid is only $2.5k extra for a ~2 year payback over an ICE (and it's faster too!). Similar story for the Corolla Hybrid. The Prius is an expensive car to a point, but unless we have a pure ICE version to compare to..

Using less fuel doesn't necessarily mean lower emissions (other than CO2).

Rust, well it's just an industry wide thing that European cars are better built to deal with rust.

Diesel? You're kidding right? Recent emissions scandals aside, modern diesels are an absolute nightmare to own. EU6 and EU7 will be the last of them as all the emissions 'tech' has made them economically unviable past warranty. How much is a DPF $4-8k? injectors $6k? additives, clogged EGRs, DMFs, all sorts of BS. Diesels used to go 500K but now you'll be well advised to sell before 150K.
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