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Old 01-15-2017, 11:27 AM   #57 (permalink)
bwilson4web
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Hi,

It has been awhile since posting here and I'd recommended this forum to the new owner of our former, Gen-3 Prius (2010 Prius, 73k miles, sold $8k):
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Looks like the rumours that Toyota had delayed the release of its 4th gen 2016 Prius to make it as efficient as possible in the face of looming competition from Hyundai may have been true. . . .
I had just posted an update on the Ioniq USA sales dates which I understand:
  • April 2017 - Ioniq, Ioniq Blue, and Ioniq EV
  • "Summer" or "Fall" 2017 - Ioniq plug-in
In May 2016, we 'sold' our 03 Prius, 172k mi, to our house keeper who needed reliable, efficient transportation. She also enjoys the 1 kW inverter and 2" receiver hitch. We replaced it with a BMW i3-REx that we've put 12k miles since May. I'm still smiling although a little less after the motor mount bolt broke at 4 PM in traffic on a Friday afternoon.

A warranty repair, it took two weeks because one part, the AC cooling hose to the battery, had to be ordered from Germany. The replacement motor mount hardware is a substantial improvement replacing the ~1/2" bolt with a ~3/4" bolt and solid aluminum mount assembly. I had planned to keep the Gen-3 Prius for a year as a spare car but BMW repairs changed my mind. Worse, the Gen-3 Prius did not have dynamic cruise control and collision avoidance which aborted a 1,600 mile trip to visit two brothers and my Mom.

A week ago Saturday, we sold our Gen-3 Prius to make room for our 2017 Prius Prime Plus (lowest trim level.) It comes with TSS-P that includes both dynamic cruise control, collision avoidance and lane keeping assistance. Friday January 20, I will drive ~1k miles from Rhode Island to Huntsville AL.

That drive home is the difference between having a product in-hand versus two (or more) in the bush. Compare the three, promised, Ioniq models to the Prius Prime:
  • 640 mile range @54 MPG vs Ioniq EV 124 miles
  • 25 miles EV at 133 MPGe vs no EV in the Ioniq Blue or Ioniq
Source: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...38485&id=38484

There are no Ioniq for sale for at least 2-3 more months and even then, the Prius Prime, a plug-in, combines the range and EV efficiency not found in the promised Ioniq. Later, we may see an Ioniq plug-in with similar capabilities but 'a bird in hand versus two in the bush.'

Bob Wilson

ps. I visited the Chevy dealer to look at the Volt only to discover it does not come with dynamic cruise control that apparently is a special order. Dynamic cruise control and accident avoidance are hard requirements.
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