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Old 04-30-2017, 07:09 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rmay635703 View Post
33.7kwhr of energy drives my 4 passenger PHEV about 202+ miles
A gallon of gas moves my PHEV a max of 50 miles but usually closer to 40 miles.

Me thinks your metric ignores a rather simple truth regardless of your cost per gallon.

See my attached real world summer fe off my NAV screen, do the math and tell me I'm wrong
I agree that an Insight isn't a fair comparison because it only seats two, but it's rare that I even have a passenger in that second seat. So, YMMV. What's most cost effective will also depend on where you live - in some places, electricity is nearly free during some parts of the day, so it's definitely not black and white. I'm sure we can both come up with a ton of scenarios where EVs or ICEs look better: E.g. If we can assume a Prius reliably gets 45mpg and can seat 4 comfortably, 5 in a pinch (not a stretch, I think), it would be roughly equivalent in cost per mile to a Leaf if you're paying the same in electricity and gas as I am.

Granted, I would much rather drive around town in an EV than with a manual transmission ICE, but I'm also one of many people who live in cities who has no place to charge an EV. For highway driving, an EV doesn't have the luxury of a fast refill like a gasoline vehicle has. You're also paying a lot more up-front for an equivalent vehicle.

Don't get me wrong, it's remarkable that we can even have this conversation. Electric vehicles have come a long way, and there's certainly a non-negligible (and growing) portion of the market they service very well already.
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