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I'm curious too. I had some problems on my Echo but nothing quite like you describe.
Man I need to get on with finding an FSM for my Civic. Had one online for the Echo and it was great.
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'97 Honda Civic DX Coupe 5MT - dead 2/23
'00 Echo - dead 2/17
'14 Chrysler Town + Country - My DD, for now
'67 Mustang Convertible - gone 1/17
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