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Old 04-04-2018, 03:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Would that be vegan?
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So, if test-tube cloned pork can be kosher, should vegans accept test-tube meat?
Yes

Vegan diets are about minimizing cruelty and exploitation of sentient creatures. Since meat isn't sentient (lacks central nervous system), it meets the requirements of veganism.

My take on the subject is that most livestock probably live relatively stress-free under the care of humans up until their relatively quick and painless end. The wilderness doesn't offer the same lack of predators, disease and bounty of food, and usually involves a slow and suffering end. To imagine that they experience horror and exploitation anywhere near to what humans do is to anthropomorphize them.

This isn't to say that I condone unnecessary pain or other cruelty towards animals, but they simply don't fear the future in the way humans do. They don't wrestle with existentialism as we do, and perhaps that is why we are so bothered by seeing the death of an animal, as it forcefully reminds us of our own mortality.

Hmm, I feel a Jordan Peterson lecture coming on right about now, and a story of 2 brothers.
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