[johnmyster]

I thought we were talking about HHO? Now we're talking about Acetone instead?

Those lab tests prove that Hydrogen uptake can be used to change the stoichiometry of combustion. They do so with significant quantities of hydrogen. But wait, then you acknowledge that the testing and use of Hydrogen and HHO have nothing in common, and that these reports that support your fish oil scams have nothing to do with the subject. Which is it? Do you actually have a story?

Brief implosions that preceed the explosion? Are you kidding me? Implosions? Implosions? This is the best story that the HHO advertising camp can come up with? Implosions? I suppose there's a black hole at the center of the brown's gas molecule that quantizes the space time continuum, spitting out extra energy and thus requiring you to adjust your ignition timing.

How much gas are you able to create with a bubbler? What kind of stoichiometry does that lead to? How much of the gas is actually hydrogen and not water vapor? Not much my friend. Not much. Read these lab tests that supposedly support your claims and see the quantities that they were using. And of course. Of course they could run leaner. They were adding additional fuel. Add hydrogen, remove gasoline. Perfect. We've once again forsaken the "quality of combustion" and the "timing of combustion" arguements and gone straight back to the perpetual motion "creating hydrogen as fuel" supposition. Which is it? Is it that you're creating your own fuel? Is it that the quality of combustion is improved, or is it that you've altered combustion speed? Pick one and stick with it. You can't keep switching back and forth.

And what do manifold temperatures have to do with anything? My engine combusts in the cylinder, NOT in the manifolds. And if I'm not mistaken, my motor is a heat engine. It runs on heat. The heat from combustion causes the expansion of gasses and drives the piston. Why would I want to lower this anyway?

How many of these people that are using HHO systems are going the extra step to actually lean up their mixtures? Very few. They see some bubles, run it through a hose, and BAM, extra mileage because they drive more gingerly. How many of them go as far as to test their leaning mods with their water vapor generators turned off? None. Yup, if I reprogrammed my ECU tables to work with less fuel, I'll bet I could get a bit of extra mileage out of the thing.

Bottom line is there is a guy on the S10 forum with a stack of HHO generators in his bed, and a setup to modify his O2 readings and run lean. Still, I get better mileage in a heavier truck with lower gearing. All that PVC and plastic hose in his bed doesn't seem to get him very far, but he's convinced it does, just as you are. I don't need to try it out. I'm trying out mods that do work.

People have been touting that you could run your car on water since the 1970's and the story is still the same. It still hasn't gained acceptance. Only now, with the ease of propogating false information and false "research" on the internet can everybody with a google toolbar convince themselves of the automotive and petroleum conspiracy to squash this "innovative new technology."