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Old 05-23-2018, 01:22 PM   #1826 (permalink)
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Please try to familiarize yourself with the scale of our energy consumption. It would take 130,000 square miles of land and 75 million roof tops (if there were that many pointing south which there aren't). And 1 million, 2.5 MW wind turbines and 50,000 grid scale solar farms. Just to replace all energy for the USA. And then rebuild every wind turbine every 20 years. All mined, refined, and installed with liquid fueled machines. And this would still leave many days of widespread black out per year due to the equally incomprehensible quantity of storage it would take. And try to shift heavy machines to corded electric? and heavy transport to electrolytic Hydrogen with it's terrible round trip efficiency.
And many times more raw materials for the rest of the world to do the same. It just does not add up. By a factor of 10. This wishful thinking without ever running the numbers is impeding logical discussion of what really can be done to come down for a softer landing after liquid fuel leaves us.
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