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Old 08-06-2018, 10:51 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
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Originally Posted by Piotrsko View Post
Lithium isn't the issue. Cobalt is. My volt pack just goes to the landfill when it's done to sit inert for millennia growing dendrites. Nobody wants them back, even if I paid.

I swag that there are many thousand tons of lithium sitting in dumps awaiting. There is no demand because raw lithium from China is cheaper. Elon WAS supposed recycle at the gigafactory when he gets to making more cars per week.
Wow. I was unaware of the scale of this problem. Here is a Euro take on it. But there are a few good pieces of journalism out there from the last year or two.

An EV should only be considered as clean as its power supply, mining, and battery recycling. A bit like cars oil/gas production and emissions. If we're not willing to consider all of it, we are greenwashing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...hium-recycling
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See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



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