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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
It will be something beyond my security level and pay grade.
But we are the cognizant

Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
The very fact that you can list such things is evidence that these are considerations,leading to the highest levels of the intelligence community and think tanks.
I dissagree. There are no major governments that are not forcasting business as usual growth for the next 30 years. Modern (last 100 years) economic theory was developed during this one time carbon pulse and will not remain valid after energy availabiliy crests in a couple decades.

Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
Stability will be the byword.We're not going to have anarchy in this country.
True. The rich and powerful will fight to maintain their control and market share. I fear that future "occupy Wall Street" demonstrations will be met with live fire from the new private armys of the elite. Homeland Security, IRS, and, BATF recently purchased 100's of Millions of rounds of ammunition such that the entire manufacturing capacity in the country was swamped and normal civilian sporting goods store's shelves in the USA went empty.

Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
Since debt is a legal fiction,erasing debt is a matter of rearranging the ink on a piece of paper.
Not true at all. Debt creates virtual "helcopter money". Which has been spent. The interest on which can only be paid back with growth. One by one countries will default starting a dominoe effect of hyper inflation and worthless currency in a globalized system where no area is equiped to stand on their own. Too many countries to name are already on the brink or having serious problems which require them to fall back on the International Monetary Fund.

Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
We like capitalism here,I suspect that this is what we'll have,although it may be a hybrid form, with some command and control.My college sociology professor talked about this.
I agree. As you mentioned in an earlier post, it will take a WWII focused effort with grass roots support and government mandates with rationing coupons, ect, to accomplish the energy and infrastrucure transition that is needed. The invisible hand of the free market is way too short sighted and focused on the largest short term return on frivolous investments that are demanded by completey selfish consumers that have zero vision of deep time and are hooked on modern super normal stimuli giving instantaneous brain reward chemicals.
This, and the completly broken equitable distribution of wealth world wide requires that we must find a whole new way. And it only works if the entire world acts in unity. Otherwise there is just a nationalist isolationary race to exclusionary fortress countries, and then cities, of priviledge with squalor and barbarism attacking from the outside.

Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
New generations born into this world will take whatever they see as 'normal.'They'll have nothing to compare to.
They will look back at us with scorn since have taken our one time primordial energy gift and blown it on instant gratification.

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At 30-years out,that's a lot of time,with slow,steady,incremental change along the timeline.That's all they've ever allowed before.
It takes that long and more to completely change everything. We are taking baby steps. We need much larger than baby steps.

Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
I likely won't be around.
Neither will I but that doesn't absolve us from taking wise action now. For "their" sake. We must finally earn our name and become truly sapient.
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