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rmay635703 · 02-03-2019, 10:43 AM

https://priuschat.com/threads/open-l...7#post-2841542

https://priuschat.com/threads/toyota...sponse.202942/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4741/overview/

The generalizations of nationwide behavior are accurate and truthful no need to argue

EV Sales up

Traditional Hybrid sales down

Truth

You only need to spend a few days at Priuschat to know Hybrid sales are way down, heck the V and soon C are going to the chopping block without a refresh for the next generation.

Where things get murky is when you look at individual states
Wisconsin and MO have had EV sales callapse , Wisconsin has been selling in the single digits monthly since the EV registration tax doubled or tripled (depending on the type and county)
But other areas are increasing dramatically, especially California.

PHEVs are in an odd place, Toyota only wants to sell them in the Northeast despite them being more popular in many areas compared to the standard Prius, other Plug in hybrids are suffering a similar fate in that they are more or less compliance cars with limited availability outside carb.

GMs PHEV interest fades with the tax credit and the huge bump in general sales is due to folks buying ASAP to avoid the tax credit horizon.

Not sure what we will see post credit.

I was hoping for more general purpose PHEVs but carb opposes this which means more compliance cars that aren’t really 50 state available and fewer PHEVs. Stating PHEVs are increasing the “hybrid” sales to stable numbers is faulty logic PHEVs are going the way of the dodo, even though they are a very valid option for most of the country.

02-03-2019, 10:43 AM	#133 (permalink)
rmay635703 home of the odd vehicles Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somewhere in WI Posts: 3,891 Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE Thanks: 506 Thanked 868 Times in 654 Posts	https://priuschat.com/threads/open-l...7#post-2841542 https://priuschat.com/threads/toyota...sponse.202942/ https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4741/overview/ The generalizations of nationwide behavior are accurate and truthful no need to argue EV Sales up Traditional Hybrid sales down Truth You only need to spend a few days at Priuschat to know Hybrid sales are way down, heck the V and soon C are going to the chopping block without a refresh for the next generation. Where things get murky is when you look at individual states Wisconsin and MO have had EV sales callapse , Wisconsin has been selling in the single digits monthly since the EV registration tax doubled or tripled (depending on the type and county) But other areas are increasing dramatically, especially California. PHEVs are in an odd place, Toyota only wants to sell them in the Northeast despite them being more popular in many areas compared to the standard Prius, other Plug in hybrids are suffering a similar fate in that they are more or less compliance cars with limited availability outside carb. GMs PHEV interest fades with the tax credit and the huge bump in general sales is due to folks buying ASAP to avoid the tax credit horizon. Not sure what we will see post credit. I was hoping for more general purpose PHEVs but carb opposes this which means more compliance cars that aren’t really 50 state available and fewer PHEVs. Stating PHEVs are increasing the “hybrid” sales to stable numbers is faulty logic PHEVs are going the way of the dodo, even though they are a very valid option for most of the country.