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Originally Posted by rmay635703
The generalizations of nationwide behavior are accurate and truthful no need to argue
EV Sales up
Traditional Hybrid sales down
Truth
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I'll wait for the data. What we do know:
Hybrid sales increased 6.8% from 2016 to 2017. (2016 = 346,948 / 2017 = 370,685)
PHEV sales increase 24.6% from 2016 to 2017 (2016 = 72,837 / 2017 =90,774)
Total hybrid sales increased 9.9% (2016 419,785 / 2017 = 461,459)
In the first 1/2 of 2018
PHEV sales increased 32.3% (2017 = 42,198 / 2018 = 55,817)
HEV sales decreased 7.8% (2017 = 177,384 / 2018 = 163,497
Total Hybrids sales down 0.1% (2017 = 219,582 / 2018 / 219,314)
We also know Honda debuted the Insight in late June 2018 and sold 12,513 of them for the year. Not bad of a sedan.
We also know that Toyota Prius sales are cratering - killed off by sales of the RAV4 hybrid and Highlander Hybrid.
We also know OEM's aren't giving up on the segment: Honda is introducing a CR-V Hybrid and Subaru is bring back the Crosstrek hybrid.
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Originally Posted by rmay635703
I was hoping for more general purpose PHEVs but carb opposes this which means more compliance cars that aren’t really 50 state available and fewer PHEVs. Stating PHEVs are increasing the “hybrid” sales to stable numbers is faulty logic PHEVs are going the way of the dodo, even though they are a very valid option for most of the country.
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I'm not sure where you get that idea.
PHEV models available:
2015 = 13
2016 = 17
2017 = 25
2018 = 27
Links:
HEV:
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10301
plug in:
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10567
2018 first half:
https://www.hybridcars.com/june-2018...les-dashboard/