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Old 02-28-2019, 04:17 PM   #5206 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RedDevil View Post
That raises some questions.
- Why are not ALL high intensity agricultural production highly reliant on non-renewable resources? There is a way not to rely on them, then?
So you want to nitpick between the words "most" and "all" to feel better? It has been very interesting for me to watch how confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance play out in these discussions. My own reactions included.
Battery electrification of industrial farm equipment and truck transport is quite unlikely to allow the same scale of production that is feeding the world now.

570 Liters of diesel per day = 5,700 kWh per day. Even if you cut that by2.5 for the extra efficiency of electric motors with round trip losses you get 2,300 kWh per day for a large size farm machine. 12 Tesla grid scale 200kWh powerpacks per day to hot swap in and out. for just one tractor. We are going to need to start making a lot of wire to get all of this power around.
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