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Old 03-07-2019, 08:22 PM   #48 (permalink)
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The poor most are, more they spent in non important things. I know about people who became somehow wealth, for our country standarts, and spent more than they could, even if now earn 10x more than 10 years ago, and go to ask money (loan) to people that earn less then they. (A study here showed that most people who wan in lottery lost almost everything few years later.

In this specific point I agree with Ben Shapiro, when he says many poor people are poor because they had poor parenthood, poor behavior, poor planing of economics, poor moral values to adress family and children creation.
But I can see that today if you say such things on USA you became a target of angry left wings. Of courser that this don't necessarilly means that low salaries for good working are ok, and this can really happens in some cases, but USA in general don't have much of this. Or have?
I've got lots of personal examples of people who were poor because of their poor decisions, not because of their poor circumstances. A coworker I knew made twice as much money as me, and was a single guy living in a single-bed apartment. He'd sometimes ask to borrow money to pay rent because he is poor at managing his money. He would spend everything, not saving for any unexpected event such as car problems.

My cousin received a windfall of money on 2 occasions ($60k and $100k+). He was broke inside of 3 months when he got the $60k. Prior to that, he had worked 2 years as a cook. After that he was on the streets. Then he inherited $100k+ and was broke within about 4 months. Started doing meth, lost what little mental capacity he had. Died last year at 44.

People in the US are just as insane as anywhere else. They will say that minimum wage isn't a "living wage". First, minimum wage was never intended to be a living wage; it was intended to get new workers foot into the workplace. Second, I could raise a family on minimum wage. It wouldn't be extravagant, but it would be a living wage. In the US, you won't be stuck with minimum wage for long if you aren't an idiot or lazy.

That isn't to say those at the lower ends of the economic spectrum are to blame; as genetics and environment are the only 2 things that affect a person's outcome, and neither are within their control.
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