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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
The base price is probably more like $40k.
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You were comparing it to an RAV4 Hybrid AWD. It isn't my fault that Tesla charges an extra $4,000 for AWD and only offers it with the long range battery.
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Originally Posted by Vman455
That doesn't matter one bit.
First off, the CFR definition of a light truck doesn't even matter for other government arms like the EPA or NHTSA, and the public certainly doesn't care what it says. They each use their own definitions, which is how you get a vehicle like the PT Cruiser classified as a truck by one and a car by the other.
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The PT cruiser being classified as a light truck is one of the reason that the EPA changed their requirements and added a minimum ground clearance.
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Originally Posted by Vman455
Second, no "definition" matters to car buyers: their only concerns are image and perceived utility, and those are determined by marketing. If a car is styled and marketed as a CUV, it's a CUV. The Hyundai Kona is smaller in every dimension except height than the Focus ST, but the Kona is a crossover and the FoST is not. The Ecosport has less cargo capacity and less headroom than the Focus hatch, but it's a CUV and the Focus is not. The Hyundai Ioniq and Kia Niro are exactly the same vehicle underneath--same platform, same drivetrain, same footprint--yet one is a car and the other is a CUV, because it's entirely about the image. And by that metric, the Model Y is a CUV, not a car. It's been designed this way specifically to differentiate it from the Model 3.
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The difference between the cars and CUVs in all your examples is ground clearance.
GM tried to market the Bolt as a Crossover and failed miserable because everyone could look at it and clearly see that it was a hatchback.