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Old 04-26-2019, 04:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JSH View Post
A friend of mine has a 2016 Model X. She paid $8000 for Autopilot + Full Self Driving. She was promised an over the air software update in 2-3 years that will turn her car into a fully autonomous vehicle. How long should she have to wait before Tesla is forced to refund that $8000?
There's a legal case to be made there. I don't know contractually what the Full Self-drive option said, but then I doubt most people who purchased do because people don't read contracts anymore. That's the whole reason why most people in the early 2000s had cell phone contracts that read something like "you agree to pay the full monthly bill on time for the entire 2 year contract, and we guarantee nothing. You may never get cell coverage, and our network may break and never be fixed. If you terminate this agreement early, you pay $300 early termination fee".

Anyhow, when contracts are sufficiently unreasonable or difficult to interpret, courts return the parties back to their state prior to the contract; which would be your friend getting back the $8,000, and Tesla disabling that feature.

BTW- I think something like $5k of that $8k is for autopilot, which is working. The refund would be more like $3k then.

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