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Old 06-05-2019, 02:58 PM   #5946 (permalink)
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only driving variable

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut View Post
I do not doubt the earth is warming, I just doubt the simple correlation of CO2 and temperature is the only driving variable. If we cripple our economies to mitigate CO2 output and find the earth heats up anyways because we ignored the other variables, then where are we?

There are other corollaries such as industrial output and population growth and urban sprawl that follow current environmental heating. No one is proposing reduction of any of that to curb global warming.

And even though I am a firm supporter of nuclear power, I support as much renewable energy ( solar, wind ) as possible with the understanding that storage and distribution must be taken into account to make it feasible to power a modern society.

Here is a solution on a utility scale proposal that makes an attempt to more effectively harness the growing use of solar and wind production.
Their statistical analysis isolated a trend line which falls outside that of natural variability,written in the proxy records.
The last time Earth saw over 400ppmv of carbon dioxide,the oceans were 75-100 feet higher than today.
*Water vapor is good for 50% of the warming
*Clouds are good for 20%.
*Anthropogenic greenhouse gases are the other 30%.
Without removing the extra GHGs,Earth will continue to warm,evaporation will increase,which will drive water vapor higher,in a self-amplifying feedback loop.It's happened before,it will happen again.
*The greatest threat is relative humidity (latent heat) and 'Real Feel' temperature.Mammals cannot survive beyond 35-degrees C heat index.
If you want an example of what awaits us,just look at Mercury and Venus.
Venus is basically twice as far from the Sun as Mercury,but twice as hot.The only reason is it's carbon dioxide atmosphere.As we continue to add carbon dioxide,Methane, and Nitrous oxide to the atmosphere,we become more and more like Venus (844-F,day and night)
Earth would be -100 F without the little bit of GHG that we have.
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