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Old 06-14-2019, 01:55 PM   #6010 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=redpoint5;600150]I agree with a little over half of that list.
Farming animals is efficient, and fish are no different.

Pesticides are a necessary evil. Eliminate pesticides and fertilizers, and the world starves to death. The key is to apply them carefully, being mindful of water run off.

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This is the point that most current climate only (not viewing the big picture) activists totally do not understand. Mechanized factory farming with hybrid/ GMO crops using artificial fertilizer and pesticides eliminated what would have been mass starvation starting in the 70's. And the population has even doubled again since 1970. We cannot suddenly stop big agro without starvation. We cannot suddenly reduce access to energy without deprivation. We must buy time with further techno advances to stretch the resources we have left and learn to coast back down with a new social system to where more of the population can grow more of their own food, fiber, and firewood themselves organically once again. And where people in OECD countries can thrive and be happy in an economic system that works with much less material and energy throughput while we uplift living standards and education in the global South to encourage and enable lower fertility rates.
 
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