[All Darc]

Redpoint, you are not a good example of human !
You are articulated, have good logic, able to put reason in front of human desire (at least in the forum discussians), despite the toilet past (was the school's principal sitting on it when it exploded???).

You can't judge human nature by judging the result of centuries of some civilization. You can see human nature, something more pure of it, in very primitive tribles in Africa, where murder and rape are very often.

I fully agree we must do not follow woman nature, for the sake of civilization. It's far easir to create a marginal/criminal than a reasonable person. The second one require decades of learning and good influence, good moral education, while the first just requires to do nothing.
Hierarchy to organioze behavior it's not the proble. The problem is the values used to define the hierarchy, the people with power. ALng history we can say it was used quite bad, giving power to crazy and evil people.