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Originally Posted by redpoint5
It wasn't recently discussed, but you have made reference to utilizing the military to seize control of citizens to enforce necessary means to address climate change. That might be on the more extreme end of your comments regarding what to do, with treating this like WWIII being among the more moderate of your comments.
Your implied contempt for Wallstreet also conveys contempt for capitalism/free markets, but perhaps I'm mis-reading you. It would be helpful if you clarified what specifically you think should happen, and how government would be structured to accomplish this, along with how business/commerce would be structured.
While I'm generally against socialist dictatorships and ideas which tilt toward them, I'm open to hearing the reasoning, any reasoning, to support any position.
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*'The business of America is business.' President Calvin Coolidge
*'Money not morality is the principle commerce of civilized nations.' President Thomas Jefferson
*'The cornerstone of U.S.Policy isn't so much to make (countries) safe for democracy as it is to make them safe for American private corporations.' President Dwight D. Eisenhower
*Realistically,all wars have been for economic reasons.To make them politically pallatable,ideological issues have always been involved.Any possible future war will undoubtably conform to historical precedent.' George Kennan,de-classified,U.S.NAVY document,Congressional Record,April 5,1947.
*'Do you want to know the cause of war? It is capitalism,greed,the dirty hunger for dollars.Take away the capitalist and you sweep war from the earth. Henry Ford,Detroit News,1918 (WW-I)
*'A vote in the U.S.Senate is of such great effect and influence that any person who is willing to sell his soul can have handsome financing for his campaigns.' U.S.Senator Albert Gore,(D) Tennessee,1954.
*'You don't want to hurt the folks who brought you to the dance.' U.S.Senator,Pat Roberts
*'We have given you a republic sir,if you can keep it.' Benjamin Franklin,Constitutional Convention,1787.
*'The liberty of the press is essential to the security of the state.' John Adams.
*'Knowledge will forever govern ignorance,and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives.A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prologue to a farce or tragedy,or both.' James Madison.
*'If a nation expects to be ignorant and free,it expects what never was and never will be...The people cannot be safe without information.Where the press is free,and every man able to read,all is safe.' Thomas Jefferson.
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*The US Constitution was signed in 1787.
*The 14th Amendment didn't exist until 1868,long after all our founding fathers were dead.
*Corporate 'personhood' was not recognized until 1886,99-years after the Constitution.
*American businessmen 'claim Adam Smith as theirs.
*Adam Smith was for free markets.
*Adam Smith was never for capitalism.
*Adam Smith was never for Republics and was never a 'Republican.'
*Adam smith never ran a business.
*Someone literally died,and he was left in charge.
*Adam Smith was not a Christian.
*Adam smith hung out with atheists.
*Capitalism has nothing to do with the United States.
*'[Corporations] have declared war,negotiated peace,reduced courts,legislatures,and sovereign states to an unequalled obedience to their will.' Charles Francis Adams
My father flew a desk in the US ARMY Air Force,Pacific Theater, WW-II.He saw the 'economics' of warfare as a course of his official work.After my return from combat in 1972,we began man-to man discussions of the realities of the 'military industrial complex'.I'd personally pumped enough J-P4 and 115-145 AVGAS to float a battleship.While we were killing godless commies,Exxon was prospecting for oil in the South China Sea.I befriended a Shell Oil Company employee,who made $50,000 US,tax-free as long as he didn't take vacation in the USA.This was 1971.There are many personal experiences I've had which have tempered my enthusiasm for Wall St.Recently,7-venture capitalists who sodomized me at photobucket.