[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

oilpan4 brought this one up,and I've kept a third eye open as I've read through the climate materials I've crossed paths with:
*Rossby waves were postulated in the 1940s.It took 50-years to verify their existence.
*1956,Radio Astonomers report perhaps 600-degree heat on Venus.No one believes it until the USSR's Venera space-probe reaches Venus in 1977.
*1965,Hubert Lamb,climatologist,UK, proposes notion of a Medeival Warm Period,which will be debunked in 2003, by Michael Mann.
*In 1975,Wallace Broecker predicted global warming which was verified by direct measurement.
*In 1975,Carl Sagan posits that,Venus,likely to be the product of a runaway greenhouse effect,later verified by USSR and American space-probes.
* 1986,MIT's Mark Crane,predicts,for the first time,an El Nino event,with a computer model.
*June,23,1988,James E. Hansen,predicts that 1988 will set an all-time heat record,verified in November of that year.
*Interior,continental,high elevation,sensitivity to early global warming,more so than at the polar regions, was predicted by Guy Calendar in 1959,and found to be correct in 1991.
*in February 1992,Albert Gore,Jr. predicted that the 1990s, would replace the 1980s as the warmest on record,which turned out to be an observed fact.
*In 1997,Lonnie Thompson,predicted that,he'd find exactly an opposite climate anomaly in the Sajama Glacier,Bolivia,glacial-stage ice,as found in any extant ice cores.The ice would be clear,free of dust,proving a wet climate during its glacial stage.Proven by 1998,after lab analysis.
*Lonnie Thompson predicted that the snows of Kilimanjaro,Africa would be no older than about 11,000-years.Lab testing pegged the snow at 11,700-years age.
*February,2001,Lonnie Thompson tells,snows of Kilimanjaro,likely to disappear by 2021.(we can watch for this)

No one on here said the green house effect wasn't real.
So that eliminates all the green house Venus straw man.
The planet has been warming since towards the end of the the last ice age. I don't think anyone here ever said the climate stays the same. Predicting warming is like predicting the tides.
One decade being warmer than another is not the definition of climate change.
Predicting El Nino weather and comparing that to a climate change prediction is an incredible stretch. These days they call it long term forecasting.
Mount Kilimanjaro being ice free 10,700 years ago and now just tells us it's likely ice free multiple times during an interglacial period so that doesn't prove anything. Sounds more like denier talk.