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Old 11-27-2007, 12:23 PM   #266 (permalink)
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The conversation turns to temperature

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Oh man, you sure do get the lake effect, don't you. I do hope you are talking about degrees C, not F. It was a balmy -17 C at my house this morning in still air, but now it's ~-21 C with the wind chill.
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When I walked to class this morning it was a cool -24C and now it's up to -17C, dunno with the wind chill though,
Yep, that was in C. Just walked downtown. Got a ride back. Temperatures like this sure make you appreciate the 25% efficiency of the ICE. Gimme some wasted heat - NOW!

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What's good about EVs is that you can install ceramic heaters. No need to wait for any ICE to warm up. you can get your heat as soon as you want it.
Yes, instant is nice.

Some ICE cars have instant heat too. I don't know about the US market cars, but the last generation Echo hatch that I test drove had a honking big resistor in the heating duct that you could light up as soon as you started the car. It didn't feel "hot", but warm air did come out of the vents within a few seconds.

But man, the BTUs coming out of an ICE heater once warm is pretty hard to beat with ceramic heaters.

Even the EV1 had a lousy heater, from first hand reports I've read. (Though it was a heat pump, not a ceramic resistor.) Efficiency, efficiency...
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