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Old 03-26-2020, 12:13 PM   #8609 (permalink)
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Simply that both the [different] cases you are contrasting are above the World average, and that a better world is possible.
Yes, the EU's emissions are above the global average. It still remains that the USA's CO2 per captia is double that of the EU and they are taking measures to reduce it while we are rolling back reduction efforts.

Which comes back to the original statement I commented on:

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"The common view here in Europe is that we're the ones fighting to save the climate while the oil producing countries and the US in particular are lagging badly with extremely high carbon emissions per capita
Why do people in Europe believe that the USA has very high carbon emissions? Because our emissions are twice as high as their's per capita.

Why do they believe we are lagging behind? Because we are currently rolling back even the modest half-measures of the past and breaking commitments made.

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Is it possible that the EU is not a monolith:
It is a certainly that the EU is not a monolith just as the USA is not a monolith.

Some states are trying to fix the problem or at least reduce harm while others have the heads in the sand still trying to claim there is no problem. (And yes you can break that down to the city, town, until you get to the individual level)
 
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