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Old 08-28-2020, 12:34 AM   #296 (permalink)
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If going to the store for skittles can get you killed by the neighborhood watch or going for a jog can get you killed by your neighbors and no prosecutors want to go near it, nihilism starts making sense.
Except that's a distortion of reality, and not a small one. Virtually everyone is going to die of cancer and heart disease. Way down the list is homicide, and the lions share of that is committed by the same race (victim is same race as the perpetrator). Anyone advancing a narrative contrary to that is ignorant at best, evil at worst.

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And what's wrong with accelerationism? If a system has inherent problems, it's better to identify and resolve them sooner rather than later- I did read once that a stitch in time saves nine, and I've found that it tends to be true.
Burning down and killing random people is not a stitch, but an accelerant of destruction and mayhem. If the far left wants to fall on the sword of calling evil good, and good evil, then they are free to be consumed by the fire they've set.

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The rioters are Americans. They get killed with impunity and they have a need to fight back. To quote Jackson Browne this time, they're "the people who finally can't take any more/and they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone". Because taking something down with you is better than simply going down.
Browne sounds like an idiot if that's in reference to the imagined violence that practically nobody encounters unless they are looking hard for it. Rioters by definition are criminals. American criminals are entitled to due process, and then a lengthy period of confinement.


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I don't think the rioters are doing the right thing, but I'm a tubby white guy in my late 40s and can criticize from a distance. Cops and other government employees treat me with respect, and I've only once had to wait more than 5 minutes to vote. But if my town or state treated me the way these folks get treated, I'd go all torches and pitchforks on them.
Sounds like you've taken the bait of "you can never know what it's like to be one of us" and "if you don't understand us, then you're part of the problem". That bait only has violence as a conclusion. It's an extremely ignorant and pointless false dichotomy.

My worthless anecdotes are that I've been treated horribly by law enforcement and the legal system. I've been surrounded at shotgun point by deputies for having a campfire on my own property. I've had false driving infractions leveled against me and upheld by 2 judges. I was cited with "minor in possession" when I wasn't drinking and that was upheld by a judge. The officer refused to perform any testing when I requested it. Being within 10ft of an open container apparently is enough to be "in possession". I've gone to prison for associating with kids that engaged in a felony and refused to aid the investigation.

After all of that, our legal process and and enforcement is among the best in the world. It's imperfect because humans are imperfect. There's room for much improvement.

Finally, the US is the least racist country in the world, and that's something I'm proud of. The far left sometimes makes me question this fact by their expressions of explicit and systemic racism, but then I remember they are the true minority.
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