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Old 09-11-2020, 07:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
In Figure 4.54, at the bottom of the table you can see the separation-induced vortex-drag increasing with the down-slope angle, up until 'burst' occurs. This is very important with respect to cars like the 911/ 912.
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In Figure 4.55, all the data presented is for separated flow and high vortex-drag. The drag minimum, and lower lift occurred at 15-degrees. You can clearly see the trend line down towards the 15-degree point on the table. And above, in Figure 4.54, you can actually see what the vortex-drag component is @ 15-degrees. The lowest lift occurred at the original roof contour ( actually on the 'template', but at high truncation ).
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With respect to fastback rear lift exceeding notchback rear lift, some counterfactual evidence is presented in Hucho's Figure 5.9, on page 221.
* A close examination of the lift table reveals a CL 0.4500 for the fastback, while the notchback version of the same car is CL 0.5085.
* The lift relationship for the two cars remains until 29-degrees of yaw, where they're identical rear lift values, then the fastback overtakes the notchback as the table ends, at 30-degrees yaw.
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The squareback shown, registered CL 0.2390, however this car is a Type 36, not a Type 31, as with the upper two cars. It, technically would not be an apples-to-apples comparison.
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The table also provides the asymptotes for each car's maximum crosswind CL.
Normal mix of errors (eg comment re Fig 4.55) and irrelevancies (eg bringing in old-shaped notchbacks with separated flow).

I'll let people look at the diagram and make up their own minds as to what it shows with regard to:
  • separated flow, attached flows and resulting wakes.
  • lift of fastbacks versus squarebacks



You would honestly think the diagram is clear enough for anyone to understand...
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