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Old 04-21-2021, 04:50 PM   #57 (permalink)
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If charge ahead is the subsidy for moderate income people, the only strategy I know of to both have enough federal tax liability and low enough income is have a modest income in the first place, and convert IRA money to a Roth, converting pre-tax money into post-tax.

It's a nifty way to essentially pay no taxes on the IRA account for whatever amount is needed to be converted to carry $7,500 in federal tax liability.
You can do that or you can lease the vehicle and have the leasing company roll the incentives into the lease deal.

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I don't remember the last time I rode in the back seat of anything. As such, I've never cared how comfortable it is back there, because anyone back there is getting a free ride. As Letterman says "It's a free show. You can't complain about a free show".
My wife and I frequently hike, camp, ski, fish with other couples so having a vehicle that accommodates 4 adults is important to us.

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I want something like the Honda E; https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/honda/e

That's got a larger battery than my current Leaf, and is much smaller. The price is, again, incredibly high---but used EVs are often in a price range I'm willing to pay. Instead we get more crossover SUVs. That's what I'm saying.
Top Gear put the Honda E up against the Mini EV and favored the Mini.

"So, you bag a quicker, more spacious car with 10–20 miles more real-world range, for two grand less. So much for the Honda’s ambitious clean sheet. Game, set and match point to the Anglo-Kraut."

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big...-mini-electric

If the Honda E ever came to the USA (which it won't) it would have a similar range as the Mini which only manages 110 miles in EPA testing.

I know you know this but we won't get more subcompacts electric or otherwise unless people start buying subcompact cars in the USA. It really is as simple as that and automakers don't care what you and I buy in the used car market.

The Mini EV is the cheapest EV on sale in the USA and along with the BMW i3 the only remaining subcompact. If it doesn't sell we won't be getting more vehicle like it.
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