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Old 05-04-2021, 12:00 AM   #94 (permalink)
Isaac Zachary
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Originally Posted by JSH View Post
I meant that most people that make the leap to EVs will be more than happy with the equivalent of 100 mpg.

Is your 7% EV adoption by 2030 from the EEI?

They are predicting 20% of new cars sales will be EV in 2030 but only 7% of total cars on the road will be EVs. That sound about right to me as it takes about 17 years to replace the vehicle fleet.

The USA will trail the world unless our regulations change. China and the EU lead the world in EV adoption but they have specific policies to make that happen. 11.4% of EU car sales were plug-in in 2020. That is up from 3.6% in 2019. What happened in 2020? Automakers had to hit a fleet average of 95 g/km CO2 or pay HUGE fines. The EU made the fines large enough that automakers couldn't just pay them and pass on the cost to buyers.
Ya, there needs to be incentives for them and disincentives against the alternative.

No place to charge is a pretty big barrier for the masses that rent their homes in the USA. 10 to 20 years from now a $3,000 used Model Y or id.4 isn't going to be of much use if there's no place to plug it in.

I guess I'm the only one here who wants an EV but doesn't want to be tied to an EVSE because I don't own where I live, and although with enough money I might be able to convince my landlord, there's a good chance I won't be here next year. To me an EV doesn't cost $30,000 and up. They cost $530,000 and up, because I'd need to get a house to own one. If only there were a way to charge off a 120V 15A outlet and get enough range. I guess that's just a pipe dream.
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