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Hersbird · 05-07-2021, 01:03 PM

Our last minivan was (well technically still is as we have 2 minivans now) a 2011 Chrysler that has 100,000 miles on it. We have had it since 2013 when we bought it with about 23,000 on it. It has averaged about 19 mpg in that time at probably $3/gal average gas price. So $12,157 in gas. It cost $18,000 and they just offered $3500 in trade (why we still have it). I has had one oil change a year or 8 total at $50 each, needed a set of tires at $450, and one set of front brake pads which I did for $30. That's really not bad. $27,537 not counting insurance and tags over 8 years. $3442/yr.

Now the Pacifica Hybrid we just bought so far has used no gas. I don't think that will stay that way but so far (1 week) we have gone 150 miles and a .10/kw our electricity costs, that's $.45. Say the rest of the year we stay at 150 miles a week pure electric and do 7800 miles EV a year that's still only $25. That leaves and average 1900 miles we will need gas at 30 mpg and $3/gal that $190. Add the oil change at $50 and we have $265. I swear it never uses the friction brakes as it will regen up to 80kw braking which feels like me stomping on the friction brakes in the 2011 so I don't ever anticipate a brake job in my use. My plan is to keep it 3 years and then decide. I'm at $30,000 purchase. If I spend $265x3, I'll have $30,800 or so in it. Just looking at low mile 3 year old Pacifica Hybrids, it seems it will be worth at least $25,000. So that's $1933/ yr cost compared to the old van we didn't even buy new and has been mechanically flawless costing $500/yr more

We'll see, I was never convinced an EV would really work out to be less but I'm starting to wonder.

05-07-2021, 01:03 PM	#41 (permalink)
Hersbird Master EcoModder Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 2,668 Dark Egg - '12 VW Touraeg Thanks: 305 Thanked 1,187 Times in 813 Posts	Our last minivan was (well technically still is as we have 2 minivans now) a 2011 Chrysler that has 100,000 miles on it. We have had it since 2013 when we bought it with about 23,000 on it. It has averaged about 19 mpg in that time at probably $3/gal average gas price. So $12,157 in gas. It cost $18,000 and they just offered $3500 in trade (why we still have it). I has had one oil change a year or 8 total at $50 each, needed a set of tires at $450, and one set of front brake pads which I did for $30. That's really not bad. $27,537 not counting insurance and tags over 8 years. $3442/yr. Now the Pacifica Hybrid we just bought so far has used no gas. I don't think that will stay that way but so far (1 week) we have gone 150 miles and a .10/kw our electricity costs, that's $.45. Say the rest of the year we stay at 150 miles a week pure electric and do 7800 miles EV a year that's still only $25. That leaves and average 1900 miles we will need gas at 30 mpg and $3/gal that $190. Add the oil change at $50 and we have $265. I swear it never uses the friction brakes as it will regen up to 80kw braking which feels like me stomping on the friction brakes in the 2011 so I don't ever anticipate a brake job in my use. My plan is to keep it 3 years and then decide. I'm at $30,000 purchase. If I spend $265x3, I'll have $30,800 or so in it. Just looking at low mile 3 year old Pacifica Hybrids, it seems it will be worth at least $25,000. So that's $1933/ yr cost compared to the old van we didn't even buy new and has been mechanically flawless costing $500/yr more We'll see, I was never convinced an EV would really work out to be less but I'm starting to wonder.