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Old 05-07-2021, 01:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hersbird View Post
Our last minivan was (well technically still is as we have 2 minivans now) a 2011 Chrysler that has 100,000 miles on it. We have had it since 2013 when we bought it with about 23,000 on it. It has averaged about 19 mpg in that time at probably $3/gal average gas price. So $12,157 in gas. It cost $18,000 and they just offered $3500 in trade (why we still have it). I has had one oil change a year or 8 total at $50 each, needed a set of tires at $450, and one set of front brake pads which I did for $30. That's really not bad. $27,537 not counting insurance and tags over 8 years. $3442/yr.

Now the Pacifica Hybrid we just bought so far has used no gas. I don't think that will stay that way but so far (1 week) we have gone 150 miles and a .10/kw our electricity costs, that's $.45. Say the rest of the year we stay at 150 miles a week pure electric and do 7800 miles EV a year that's still only $25. That leaves and average 1900 miles we will need gas at 30 mpg and $3/gal that $190. Add the oil change at $50 and we have $265. I swear it never uses the friction brakes as it will regen up to 80kw braking which feels like me stomping on the friction brakes in the 2011 so I don't ever anticipate a brake job in my use. My plan is to keep it 3 years and then decide. I'm at $30,000 purchase. If I spend $265x3, I'll have $30,800 or so in it. Just looking at low mile 3 year old Pacifica Hybrids, it seems it will be worth at least $25,000. So that's $1933/ yr cost compared to the old van we didn't even buy new and has been mechanically flawless costing $500/yr more

We'll see, I was never convinced an EV would really work out to be less but I'm starting to wonder.
Used car prices are up quite a lot, so I'd sell that other van on the private market and fetch top dollar.

Based on your total cost of ownership with the old van, it cost 36 cents per mile. Of course, the more you drive it, the lower the per mile cost.

Something is off with the math on electricity costs. The Pacifica gets about 2 miles per kWh. At 10 cents per kWh, that's 5 cents per mile in electricity. 150 miles would be $7.50. A year would be $390 in electricity.

My grandpa was a letter carrier, and you could tell based on how he would wait until the last second to stop on the brakes. No time for slowing down when you've got hundreds of stops to make.

I bet you can get the brakes to last the life of the vehicle.

...you've got me thinking maybe this should be our next vehicle. If I have another kid, it would make everything much easier.
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