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Old 11-21-2021, 11:04 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MeteorGray View Post
Let's try not hurling personal attacks, ok? Using logical arguments should not incite such responses.
I never attack the person; only the non-sequitur. Either the position lacks proportionality, or it attempts to elicit a response for the pleasure of wasting someone's time. When someone responds with logic, I like the response regardless of my agreement because they have demonstrated consistent thinking (see Aerohead comments).

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Bicycles generally are allowed by law to operate on public roads and travel and otherwise interact with motor vehicles. As a consequence of this privilege, they are expected to follow all traffic laws. This includes laws against being out there with a load of booze under the belt because drunk bicyclists have the potential of causing death and destruction as I have already illustrated. If you disagree, that's ok. I respect that.

To further answer your points, about jaywalking, failing to signal and running stop signs, I could do so but it would take more room than it's worth, and I doubt very much you'd agree with me anyway. I'll just say that I'm sure that some tickets are given for all those offences.

As to why you never see bicyclists being ticketed for traffic infractions, I suppose it's because you aren't reading court records. I'm certain they are, but I will admit that in the current state of "defund the police" demands in the US while our cities burn, I'm sure such tickets are not being emphasized very much nowadays.

Again, I'm not intentionally being obtuse. I'm just trying to get and exchange information and express my point of view on topic that interest me. That's what I think these forums are for. If that is defined as trolling, then I don't understand the term.
All of that is a reasoned response.
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