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Old 01-03-2022, 06:44 PM   #220 (permalink)
hayden55
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Sport Utility Prius - '10 Toyota Prius II
90 day: 52.98 mpg (US)

300k Sequoia 4WD - '01 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4wd
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)
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Thanks for reminding me why we have climate change, why we had to 'invent' the electric vehicle, why we're unlikely to ever do anything about it, and why I'm within a whisker of leaving EcoModer.com.
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*Reformulated E10, REGULAR UNLEADED has 111,836- Btu /gallon
* @ 3412 Btu / kWh, a gallon = 32.7772 kWh
I'm just restating the current comparison from the federal gov (USA).
1 gallon = 33.7kWh -> mpge (mpg equivalent)
Although i see they added kWh/100mi now.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...n=sbs&id=42810
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...n=sbs&id=43821

Currently these are both still running on fossil fuels so cleanliness is probably similar for Arkansas.
But I did note on their government website they used $.126/kWh and $3.36/gal and locally it is $.135/kWh and $2.75/gal on avg (was 2.59 last week sometimes 2.89)

So 15000 miles a year for me on both are:

Tesla:$480.59 + 200 registration = 681$/yr
Prius:$736.61+100 registration = 837$/yr

At a net savings of $156/yr I don't see anything above a hybrid paying off for quite a while. The msrp on electric cars is too high for most of the 1st world country middle class, so its not going to be a solution for the rest of the world either. I really don't get the holier than thou attitude though. A lot of us on here can only afford to be so green. Most of us join to save money.
I'm convinced the only way they get people to buy EVs currently is they compare the cost of driving an EV in fuel to that of the average car (27mpg) and hope you forget cheaper hybrids also exist. The teslas are nice luxury cars but I'm okay with a cloth econo box and 0-60 in 15 seconds. lol


People will transition into renewables in due time as their wallets allow.
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