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Originally Posted by hayden55

At a net savings of $156/yr I don't see anything above a hybrid paying off for quite a while. The msrp on electric cars is too high for most of the 1st world country middle class, so its not going to be a solution for the rest of the world either. I really don't get the holier than thou attitude though. A lot of us on here can only afford to be so green. Most of us join to save money.

EVs come with a $7500 federal tax credit and an additional $2500 rebate in my state. A $10K discount pretty much erases the additional MSRP of an EV vs a hybrid.

I don't buy new but when shopping for used vehicle in November I could buy an EV for the same price as a hybrid. My 2017 Bolt EV Premier was $24K out the door with 33K miles on the ODO. A 2017 Prius with similar mileage is priced similar but a bit higher. The absolute cheapest 2017 Prius listed on Car Guru within 100 miles of me is $21K with 91K miles on the ODO.

Originally Posted by hayden55

I'm convinced the only way they get people to buy EVs currently is they compare the cost of driving an EV in fuel to that of the average car (27mpg) and hope you forget cheaper hybrids also exist. The teslas are nice luxury cars but I'm okay with a cloth econo box and 0-60 in 15 seconds. lol

I compare EV running cost to my 2005 and 2009 Prius.

Fuel:

• The 2005 averaged 6.5 cents per mile for fuel and the 2009 averaged 6.7 cents per mile.
• My 2016 Spark EV would have cost 2.9 cents per mile if I couldn't charge for free at work.
• The Bolt is averaging 4.1 cents per mile for electricity but this is also winter and about 30% of the electricity usage is to run the heater.

Maintenance:

• The Prii averaged 2 cents per mile for maintenance.
• The Spark EV was 0.7 cents per mile for maintenance. That was me replacing the stock tires after 6K miles because they were dangerously bad.
• Bolt - none to date. The only scheduled maintenance is the cabin air filter, brake fluid every 3 years, and coolant at 120K miles

Originally Posted by hayden55

but I'm okay with a cloth econo box and 0-60 in 15 seconds. lol

I'm not when I can get 0.60 in 6.5 seconds, leather, and every other option available for the same price. I'm a big fan of the 360 degree cameras in the Bolt - they are fantastic for parallel parking.